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Love the 'Fro, Dude

 Jose Lima moves the crowd on
Turn Back The Clock Day,
June 26, 1999

Win Number 21, Suckah!

 Lima defeats the LA Dodgers October 2, 1999, to set up the following day's division-clincher

OK one guess: Who in Astros history--minimum eleven career victories-- had the greatest percentage of those career wins come in one season?

Trick question. Actually it was Sean Bergman. And of course, since I'm writing the question, I made it eleven wins because of the Johnson barrier, which says that no Astro--in his only season--shall ever win more than 10 games.

But, anyway, yeah, I knew it, you guessed Jose Lima. Certainly no Astro's crash has ever been quite as spectacular as Lima's, but as the table below will tell you, his bright, brief flash upon the scene did have some parallels:

One Season Wonders: Season vs. Career Wins as an Astro
Minimum 11 Wins, 2 Seasons
YearPitcherWinsAstro
Career
Wins
% of
Career Total
ERAAstro
Career
ERA
% of
Career
ERA

1998 Sean Bergman  12  16 .750 3.72 4.32 0.86
1992 Doug Jones  11  15 .733 1.85 3.02 0.61
1986 Charley Kerfeld  11  15 .733 2.59 3.95 0.66
1973 Jerry Reuss  16  25 .640 3.74 3.91 0.95
1982 Don Sutton  13  24 .542 3.00 2.82 1.06
2000 Scott Elarton  17  32 .531 4.81 4.82 1.00
1963 Hal Woodeshick  11  21 .524 1.97 3.16 0.62
1963 Don Nottebart  11  21 .524 3.17 3.86 0.82
1984 Bill Dawley  11  22 .500 1.93 2.71 0.71
2004 Roger Clemens  18  38 .474 2.98 2.40 1.24
2005 Andy Pettitte  17  37 .459 2.39 3.38 0.71
1999 Jose Lima  21  46 .457 3.58 4.77 0.75
Clemens' and Pettite's numbers are current through 2006.

1999 Stadium Club # 11 1999 Skybox Thunder Rant # 70

People forget that Lima won 16 games in '98. And people also forget that, whatever else, Lima threw strikes. Jose Desiderio Rodriguez Lima is ninth all-time on the Astros list for Walks/9 Innings Pitched with a very respectable 1.97, better in that department than guys you've heard of like Vern Ruhle, Danny Darwin, and Shane Reynolds.

So when he took that dive in 2000, it wasn't the walks that got Lima in trouble, it was the hits. Very pronouncedly, it was the hits. Lima, even in the good years, only had a so-so WHIP coz of all the hits he gave up. For example, even in his fourth-place Cy Young year of 1999, he gave up the fourth-most hits in the NL; this when he was third in the league in walks per nine. It's pretty extreme, actually: Lima is one of only seven Astros ever who gave up more than five times as many hits as walks in a career that lasted longer than 40 innings pitched.

Walks Per 9 Innings Pitched
Minimum 50 IP as an Astro
  PitcherWalks AllowedInnings
Pitched
Walks
Per Nine
Innings

  1. Hal Brown   34   273-1/3 1.120
  2. Robin Roberts   20   139-2/3 1.289
  3. Doug Jones   38   197 1.736
  4. Dick Farrell 212 1015 1.880
  5. Don Larsen   23   108-2/3 1.905
  6. Don Sutton   75   353-2/3 1.909
  7. Ron Taylor   26   122-1/3 1.913
  8. Ken Johnson 151   690-2/3 1.968
  9. Jose Lima 176   804 1.970
10. Russ Kemmerer   23   104-2/3 1.978
11. Shane Reynolds 358 1622-1/3 1.986
12. Vern Ruhle 166   749-2/3 1.993

2000 Fleer Ultra
Gold Medallion # 56G
 
2000 Stadium Club # 126

Actually, it might not have been the hits, either. It was probably the homers. Lima's 2000 season--when he gave up 48 very celebrated jacks-- remains second only to Bert Blyleven's 1986 campaign for most homers ever given up by a major leaguer in a single year. Lima gave up a homer basically every four innings, a rate even Blyleven can't touch.

And while I can imagine in this era of diluted pitching staffs and overmuscled sluggers a pitcher toiling in some bandbox somewhere giving up more than 48 dingers in a season, Lima's Astro record--which he holds by a healthy fourteen over his 1998 incarnation--is likely to stand for some time to come. Wade Miller did give up 31 shots in 2001, but only allowed 14 in 2002, and Oswalt has never given up more than 17. Notice, however, the rates at which Elarton in 2001 and Dotel in 2000 gave up the long ball:

Most Homers Given Up, One Season
  PitcherYearInnings
Pitched
Home Runs
Allowed
Homers Allowed
Per Inning
Pitched

Jose Lima 2000 196-1/3   48 .244
Jose Lima 1998 233-1/3   34 .146
Wade Miller 2001 212   31 .146
Larry Dierker 1970 269-2/3   31 .115
Jose Lima 1999 246-1/3   30 .122
Scott Elarton 2000 192-2/3   29 .151
Mike Scott 1990 205-2/3   27 .131
Bob Knepper 1987 177-2/3   26 .146
Scott Elarton 2001 109-2/3   26 .237
Octavio Dotel 2000 125   26 .208
Bob Knepper 1984 233-2/3   26 .111

2001 Pacific
Crown Collection # 15

Those who criticize Jose Lima these days, don't, I think, fully understand how gutsy he really was. The man has a high-80's fastball, and no curve to speak of. He lived off the change-up, and the change off the change. Even in good years, he gave up homer after homer. Yet he came back with the same pitches night after night--and once won 37 games over a two year span. Cojones de latón, I think Jose himself might call that. People say he was intimidated by the new ballpark, and they're probably right. But wouldn't you be, too? Lima was a flyball pitcher, who suddenly found that the 300-foot flyballs he was giving up were now landing in the Crawford Boxes. And going to Detroit wasn't gonna help much either.

So give the guy a break, and some credit for what he was able to accomplish.

Jose Lima was a lot of fun to watch and to follow; wearing his glove on his head, banging bats against trash cans in the dugout in order to spark some kind of half-imagined rally, the gyrations on the mound after a strikeout or a DP: the man was having a blast, and was a blast to watch.

Even during the nightmare of a 2000 season he foisted upon his fans and himself, he remained at the least entertaining and candid. As I write, Lima has just been picked up by the KC Royals, for whom he started, gave up a homer, and took the loss, a couple days ago. He's got an ERA of 6.00, but I'll be pulling for him. Imagine that: Lima Time, again!

Jose Lima's Record in the Astros Organization
  YearERAWinsLossesSaves GamesStarts Complete
Games
Innings
Pitched
Hits Runs Earned
Runs
Walks K's
1997 5.28   1   6 2   52     1     0   75   79   45   44   16   63
1998 3.70 16   8 0   33   33     3 233-1/3 229 100   96   32 169
1999 3.58 21 10 0   35   35     3 246-1/3 256 108   98   44 187
2000 6.65   7 16 0   33   33     0 196-1/3 251 152 145   68 124
2001 7.30   1   2 0   14     9     0   53   77   48   43   16   41
Totals 4.77 46 42 2 167 111     6 804 892 453 426 176 584

Postcript: It's a couple weeks later , and while it hasn't become anything like Dontrelle Willis or even Roy Halladay, Lima Time is getting some press. It helps that Lima's won two straight for the Royals as I write, but evidently he took a few minutes out while throwing on the side one day, and learned how to throw a slider. Even Rob Neyer was noticing. But If it's that easy for him, you gotta wonder why no-one tried this in 2000 or 2001. What, Dierker or Ruhle couldn't show him how to hold his fingers?

Post-Postcript: It's May 22, 2010. RIP Jose. It was fun to be your fan.